1622 sunken treasure contains 1,000's of pearls
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Hm... documenting the process step by step would have solved that problem, but... who knows what was done 
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That appears to be one of the pictures enlarged. Follow the link I posted yesterday, there are a couple more pictures.
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Antique glass iridescence was 'uncovered' by Schliemann et al in the 19th C, thereafter mimicked by the likes of Tiffany. This phenomenon results from the slow decay of the glass surface, in the case below beneath the dry soils of Lebanon's Bekaa Valley. I had not considered that pearlescence could also be increased with decay?Valeria101 said:
Knotty, keep after Akira and let's get some definitive images here ASAP!
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I had no idea either until I saw some pearls showing the symptoms and read the related museum note. The examples are in public view at the Met and at the Babylon exhibit in Berlin.
It mustn't take that long to have pearl turn super-iridescent with age: a few centuries (rather then a few dozen!) should be enough: medieval pearls that were buried show some of that sometimes. Again, cannot know what it takes: the couple of example I can remember are from around 1500 all. From allot of buried pearls all that remains are the small gold posts that used to hold them
Other looks new! Who knows... what could make such difference.Wonder if whatever time does isn't similar to what thermal treatment does to pearls quickly
Anyway. The main morale of this story might be that pearls are practically 'forever' too. Or at least have a good shot at it.
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I have put out the feelers for Ms. Hyatt. If this isn't a conflict of interest for her, I would suspect she would honor us with her presence. If not, the pearls are 6 hours or so from me. I am also going to see if Blue Rose and/or Mel Fisher will grant me an interview -- or a copy of the 108 page report -- LOL. I can dream, can't I? They have their own forum website, but the activity is close to nil, considering this one. Maybe they would post for us to answer some questions. Caitlin, wanna pave the way, Teamie?
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You've got the pull and influence. I'm just a lowly beader. See if someone will come and post on the forum for us for starters, that would be easiest.
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smetzler said:
Keep that thought. I'm half way through a twelve step program of conversion to beady pearls...
Maybe one day, there will be a thousand-year old bead nucleated pearl to set the record straight. What would it take?
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HI Knotty
With that kind of flattery, I am at your disposal. I'll go back and read and see if I can find an email or address or phone number. I too, would love to have these folks post. Or at least get an interview.........
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With that kind of flattery, I am at your disposal. I'll go back and read and see if I can find an email or address or phone number. I too, would love to have these folks post. Or at least get an interview.........
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smetzler said:
Hm... Interesting thought. Any idea if such objects are being produced?
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smetzler said:
Too funny Steve!!!
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Not to give undue publicity to an overexposed category, but on visiting Pearl Paradise offices a while back Jeremy did show me a drilled Tahitian with superb peacock from his private collection. We could easily see about 3mm of nacre. Jeremy represented it to me as a freak.
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The gentleman who did the last update at BlueWaterVentures is Ron Pierson but he's the website guy. As near as I can make out, they are the salvage company. The financier is Mel Fisher. The pearls are at his lab. They have an 800 no. 800-434-1399.
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With business travel to Florida pending in early February, I thought it might be an interesting fantasy to consider a visit to Key West and Mel Fisher's laboratories. Well, it's do-able. I did identify myself as a member of Pearl-Guide.com with a special interest in natural pearls, and was authorized to post this information here.
Here's how it works: Mel Fisher's continuing recovery of treasures from the Atocha and Sta Margarita is financed by an investment plan, $80,000 per year per share, with the maximum annual number of shares being 150 (there are 35 shares still available in the current campaign). Minimum investment is 1/8 share, or $10K. Treasure is randomly allocated at the end of the investment cycle, paying 100% to investors until their investment level is reached, thereafter at 65/35 in favor of Mel Fisher, Fisher's treasure offered for sale to the public through Fisher outlets.
With 6,000 to 8,000 pearls between 150 investors, even random allocation will assure investors of at least a few pearls, and there are apparently systems in place for investors to trade their allocations. No mechanism appears to be in place for the investors to actually choose the pearls they would receive. Such a process could not occur until the pearls are offered for subsequent resale.
I have been invited to view the pearls in the Key West laboratory. Should I change my travel plans? Would anyone want to join me?
Steve
Here's how it works: Mel Fisher's continuing recovery of treasures from the Atocha and Sta Margarita is financed by an investment plan, $80,000 per year per share, with the maximum annual number of shares being 150 (there are 35 shares still available in the current campaign). Minimum investment is 1/8 share, or $10K. Treasure is randomly allocated at the end of the investment cycle, paying 100% to investors until their investment level is reached, thereafter at 65/35 in favor of Mel Fisher, Fisher's treasure offered for sale to the public through Fisher outlets.
With 6,000 to 8,000 pearls between 150 investors, even random allocation will assure investors of at least a few pearls, and there are apparently systems in place for investors to trade their allocations. No mechanism appears to be in place for the investors to actually choose the pearls they would receive. Such a process could not occur until the pearls are offered for subsequent resale.
I have been invited to view the pearls in the Key West laboratory. Should I change my travel plans? Would anyone want to join me?
Steve
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Steve, That is just soooooo Awesome! Wow, an interview in person! Maybe some of our forum members living in Florida or nearby could take advantage of your offer.
I have known about the Atocha for awhile, and have a small pair of earrings made from the silver previously recovered.
Pattye
so many pearls, so little time
I have known about the Atocha for awhile, and have a small pair of earrings made from the silver previously recovered.
Pattye
so many pearls, so little time
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Oh my goodness! I am SOOOOOO TEMPTED! Let me contact Sascha Ghods to see if he has any interest. How many people can you take with you? Oh my! Such a rare experience! bemypearl.com vendor
