Melo melo?

I expect I will have to send this object to GIA for authentication.

I wouldn't bother. It's expensive, subjective and you run the risk of getting an unfavorable report.

Certification is generally used to rule out cultured as opposed to natural in questionable nacreous pearls.

Yours is a foliated structure (non-nacreous), visually distinct and presents with a recognizable flame pattern over a translucent matrix.

I doubt any pearl expert worth their salt would dispute it's authenticity and I doubt any certificate would provide a significant value add in this case. It's even possible for a certificate to inflate the value beyond what anyone would be willing to pay, hence unsellable. That's been the problem with quahog pearls. As beautiful as they are, there are hundreds, if not thousands of overpriced and undersold quahog pearls.
 
Cool post and perspective, Dave. I'm still going to hope for a candled view, if Vroom is willing.
 
Cool post and perspective, Dave. I'm still going to hope for a candled view, if Vroom is willing.

OK here is my attempt at candling the melo melo I think I can see the flame pattern in a couple of these images? IMG_3901.jpgIMG_3902.jpgd780
 
I wouldn't bother. It's expensive, subjective and you run the risk of getting an unfavorable report.

Certification is generally used to rule out cultured as opposed to natural in questionable nacreous pearls.

Yours is a foliated structure (non-nacreous), visually distinct and presents with a recognizable flame pattern over a translucent matrix.

I doubt any pearl expert worth their salt would dispute it's authenticity and I doubt any certificate would provide a significant value add in this case. It's even possible for a certificate to inflate the value beyond what anyone would be willing to pay, hence unsellable. That's been the problem with quahog pearls. As beautiful as they are, there are hundreds, if not thousands of overpriced and undersold quahog pearls.

Thank you ever so much for the sage advice.

And I think I understand, the same sort of thing happened to me in my profession - there I was looking for experts to confirm my findings only to eventually and painfully discover I was it - as no one else in the world was doing what I did. It did not help much that no one much liked what I (and my team) had found, and then on top of that were the professional jealousies - people i had thought were real stooped to unbelievable depths. Recall my one in a million ugly thing comment? Very ugly.

Anytime one enters into that which is out of the ordinary - and what could be more out of the ordinary than a melo melo pearl from a thrift store? - putting said non-ordinary object into the hands of those who perform the same ordinary task day in day out is fraught with hazards. Which me-thinks was your point.

Apparently this pearl is so rare it fits into these conundrums.

Any-haps were do I go from here? Obviously this is what it looks like it is - as you so eloquently stated. Wealth to me is holding valuable rare objects of beauty (my wife has a differing view LOL). But even so if kept such things must be valued and insured and when push comes to shove sometimes treasures must be sold.

If a GIA cert is not the next move what is? Or do I just lock this away? What if it must be sold?

Of course considering the odds of finding this maybe I should buy a few lottery tickets while I am in the zone - but as I said I live and work in a place where one can expect such things as the abnormal to be well normal.

Sorry for the rambling reply - I gave a lot of thought to your post before replying and I am not sure it helped.

Thank you so much for your thoughts and for all the kind folks on this forum who share their knowledge.
 
The images in post #23 are too out of focus for me to see anything much...any way to get them in better focus?

Beautiful color, by the way! A thrilling find. I would be loathe to part with it, myself.
 
The images in post #23 are too out of focus for me to see anything much...any way to get them in better focus?

Beautiful color, by the way! A thrilling find. I would be loathe to part with it, myself.

Thank you - and yes the images are a bit fuzzy but not to much more than the pearl appears itself in transmitted light. Its just a fuzzy orange glowing blob with dark clouds of material.
 
Any-haps were do I go from here? Obviously this is what it looks like it is - as you so eloquently stated. Wealth to me is holding valuable rare objects of beauty (my wife has a differing view LOL). But even so if kept such things must be valued and insured and when push comes to shove sometimes treasures must be sold.

If a GIA cert is not the next move what is? Or do I just lock this away? What if it must be sold?

A GIA certificate doesn't list value. They allude to specific scientific points which are consistent with other baseline data only.

It is then where appraisers examine the data and affix monetary value, which is yet another layer of subjectivity, even when deemed genuine.

Most experts in pearls will say the same thing... it's in the eye of the beholder. You might think one thing, but your underwriter might think something else. You seem to have a good understanding of this already, as your issues are mirrored with mine in many ways. Once a pearl is drilled or otherwise fashioned into something, the value changes. In your case, unless the pearl is mounted into something extraordinary, the chances of it being devalued are higher, afterall much of the scientific value and pristine condition will be lost. As you have alluded, therein lies the conundrum.

When appraising naturals, one must consider all points, both positive and negative. Melo melo is not uncommon, non-nacreous and larger specimens have been described. One side has a considerable ridge of terminal growth overlapping the previous layers. Each of these points will halve the value, which becomes exponential. For the sake of discussion (only) let us compare it with La Perigrina, afterall they are simillar in size and shape. Despite what Christies auction house sold Elizabeth Taylor's collection for, we are only discussing the pearl itself. It was purchased by Richard Burton for $35,000 in the mid 70's. Unfortunately, natural pearls are not in great demand and if anything, prices per carat are generally lower. Factor in retail exchange, 17-20 is more realistic. Now, subtract non-nacreous 9-10, commonality 4-5 and inclusions 2-3.

I, like other natural pearl collectors are very wary to appraise value, but if I was to see this pearl listed and sold for $2-3000, I would not be outraged or suprised. I'm sure a decent underwriter would not have any issue with this and would insure it for upwards of $4-5000 of the replacement value. Of course they could never truely replace something as unique as this, but at the very least you'd probably be able to find something similar for that amount, plus a little for your efforts. You would likely need to deliver the pearl for their inspection. Before doing so, I'd suggest an array of professional quality macro shots over basic white including reference to size in millimeters. Explain to them, the cost of certification is not necessarily practical because of it's inherent properties and current market value.

BTW, check out this link of a previous post, where I posted images of candled natural pearls.

Candled Natural Pearls

Basically, all you need to do is make a simple box. Drill a hole in it. Not too big, not too small, just large enough to set the pearl in and allow enough light to pass. Put a bright LED or other light inside the box, place the pearl on the hole and use macro mode.

Once again, you have a delightful pearl and found a real treasure and I thank you for sharing it with us.
 
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Dave, Thank you for bringing up your candling post, and describing your light set up, and venturing a 'ballpark'. You're a great help!
 
It certainly looks great. My only suspicion would be that the surface has been "worked". It might be the lighting, but it looks like there are flat areas where it might have been carved or polished. This would reduce the value, but it would still be very valuable. It looks real and not at all like carved shell, which is used for imitations. In fact, it looks like juicy fruit waiting to be bitten into. :cool:

Getting a report from GIA would not be a waste of time because they can tell you if it has been worked and if it is a natural melo melo. But only get one if you plan to sell it or you're curious. An identification report is $100.
 
It certainly looks great. My only suspicion would be that the surface has been "worked". It might be the lighting, but it looks like there are flat areas where it might have been carved or polished. This would reduce the value, but it would still be very valuable. It looks real and not at all like carved shell, which is used for imitations. In fact, it looks like juicy fruit waiting to be bitten into. :cool:

Getting a report from GIA would not be a waste of time because they can tell you if it has been worked and if it is a natural melo melo. But only get one if you plan to sell it or you're curious. An identification report is $100.

Yes the pearl has been polished looks like a buffing wheel, there are flats. The thrift store did however give me a large discount.
 
Yes the pearl has been polished looks like a buffing wheel, there are flats. The thrift store did however give me a large discount.

By that, you can see the perils of online appraisals. While I demerited inclusions previously, alteration will halve the value yet again.
 
By that, you can see the perils of online appraisals. While I demerited inclusions previously, alteration will halve the value yet again.

Gosh I can think of one other flaw too soon I will have to try to get my money back from the thrift store LOL.
 
Gosh I hope I was not rude - seems I have a little problem health-wise associated with my profession (movie rights alone worth millions should I survive). Please forgive I have really appreciated the advice.
 
No actually, that was pretty funny!!! Probably just caught a minute when no one was home!

good luck with film rights
 
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Because this topic is not discussed under natural pearls, Jeremy may not have seen this thread yet.

Thank you for the suggestion I tried to send a PM not sure if it went I'll check and try again later if it did not go through.

Perhaps I should start a thread on this melo melo in "Natural Pearls"?
 
My family got one Melo pearl too, we also looking for its market and price. we are from Vietnam, hope to receive information about this pearl for collectors
 
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