I'm about to buy some pearls from etsy and want the vendor to drill the pearls. The pearls are 12 - 15mm. What is the usual size to have them drilled? I will be using Beaders Secret 30 with doubled thread. I will also need a little room for the back stringing by the clasps.
Size of drill holes?
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JerseyPearl
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Generally speaking, I like to use a heavier thread (#20) with heavier pearls (above 12mm). I use that doubled and with a 1.0mm hole. But if you are using #30 thread, I'd stick with a hole of 0.8mm otherwise you might find your knots slip into the holes if they are any larger. Personally, I prefer the "heft" of the heavier thread with larger pearls.
Katbran
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I agree with JP . An 8mm drill hole for regular pearls and I do .9 and redrill the outer 3 larger to accomodate the double back thread. I too like the larger thread with the really large strands . Good luck !
amti
Member
I have only drilled at .8mm and the regular thickness BS had to be quadrupled to keep the knots in place, so I am going to redo them with the thicker BS when I have time. I didn't enjoy four strand knotting very much because the threads tend to wrap around each other too much. My largest pearl is about 12.8mm. If you plan to redo the strand and use the pearls in a medley of different types of pearls, you may want to consider keeping all your drilled holes the same size so you won't have to worry about knots slipping at a later date.
BeadersSecret
Professional Rethreader
I like working with .8 and if all the pearls are quite large .9
On a personal level I use four strands either 4 fine - or 2 medium combined with two fine.
I find the finer the thread the neater the knot. #30 I would class as medium.
The last two pearls at the back I like to hand ream, or if the nucleus is stubborn I will drill to a maximum of 1mm.
'Tis not good if the holes of the pearls are too big, this can be detrimental to the finishing off process.
If too loose, the knot where finished off will weaken.
On a personal level I use four strands either 4 fine - or 2 medium combined with two fine.
I find the finer the thread the neater the knot. #30 I would class as medium.
The last two pearls at the back I like to hand ream, or if the nucleus is stubborn I will drill to a maximum of 1mm.
'Tis not good if the holes of the pearls are too big, this can be detrimental to the finishing off process.
If too loose, the knot where finished off will weaken.
Katbran
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Thats interesting Bernadette - do you use two needles with the 4 strands?
Good question, Luvglitz,
Most of the pearls I knot are already drilled, and the larger ones at .08 mm, usually. Most smaller cfwp probably .06-.07 mm. I very seldom ream the end pearls, and prefer not to, as pearls get rearranged sometimes.
I do vary the combinations of thread sizes to fit the holes, then before stringing check to see if I can double back comfortably and check knot size, too. (Having really thin needles makes a difference, imo.)
Most of the pearls I knot are already drilled, and the larger ones at .08 mm, usually. Most smaller cfwp probably .06-.07 mm. I very seldom ream the end pearls, and prefer not to, as pearls get rearranged sometimes.
I do vary the combinations of thread sizes to fit the holes, then before stringing check to see if I can double back comfortably and check knot size, too. (Having really thin needles makes a difference, imo.)
Pearl Dreams
Pearl Enthusiast
I agree about using the thinnest needles! And about not reaming the end pearls, for the same reason.
JerseyPearl
Well-known member
I triple that about thinnest needles and not reaming. I find that Beader's Secret in #30 make wonderfully neat knots. Yes they are a tad larger, but they don't look odd given the larger size of the pearls. I find that 1.0mm makes it easier to back knot through on the last pearls on the ends. Since I drill my own pearls, these are my preferences...but honestly, it's really up to you! Keeping in mind of course that the difference between 0.8mm and 1.0mm is 0.2mm...or in other words, really tiny at two tenths of a millimeter.
BeadersSecret
Professional Rethreader
Hi Katbran, I use one needle only- the type of needle I use are the stiff sort.
Reaming and drilling that's for another thread- the difference between 0.8 and 0.9mm isn't going to make a difference in later rearranging the pearls.
Reaming and drilling that's for another thread- the difference between 0.8 and 0.9mm isn't going to make a difference in later rearranging the pearls.
amti
Member
Bernadette, interesting on the two different size threads. I bet it makes for a pretty knot! Do you use the Chinese method of stringing or another style? If so, how do you keep the threads from twirling around each other? It doesn't bother me when I string with a doubled thread, but with four threads, I spend more time untwirling than I'd like.
aerinha
New Member
I am looking at three pearls in a set for a rope I want to make and they are drilled at .5mm according to the etsy seller. In the pics, strung on wire, the holes look pretty big compared to other pearls I have seen. Is that bigger than normal? If so would BS #30 still work? The rest of the pearls I have for this project I believe are at .8.
Thanks for any advice.
Thanks for any advice.
My dearest pearl knotting community, I'd like to hop onto this thread, hopefully Luvglitz, you don't mind!
If say I have about 50 5-8mm pearls (.7 to .8 mm drill holes) that I'd like to combine with the same strung length of 2-4mm diameter faceted gemstone beads that only have .4mm drill holes.
Can this be done at all via knotting? I bought some .13mm PowerPro (thanks for initiating me, Pattye!) which works well with the gemstone beads but I could not fit it if doubled.
The pearls obviously slip over these single knots.
Would it be okay to use the little stones as "bumpers" for the pearls and knot only between each of the 3-4 pieces of gemstone beads between each pair of pearls? Or should I buy some metal spacers (thinking silver) instead to add before and after each pearl to protect her? I would prefer not using silicone/polymer bumper beads.
What do you think, I'd love to get some input!
PearlDreams, this lovely necklace you made looks very similar to what I have in mind layoutwise:
If say I have about 50 5-8mm pearls (.7 to .8 mm drill holes) that I'd like to combine with the same strung length of 2-4mm diameter faceted gemstone beads that only have .4mm drill holes.
Can this be done at all via knotting? I bought some .13mm PowerPro (thanks for initiating me, Pattye!) which works well with the gemstone beads but I could not fit it if doubled.
The pearls obviously slip over these single knots.
Would it be okay to use the little stones as "bumpers" for the pearls and knot only between each of the 3-4 pieces of gemstone beads between each pair of pearls? Or should I buy some metal spacers (thinking silver) instead to add before and after each pearl to protect her? I would prefer not using silicone/polymer bumper beads.
What do you think, I'd love to get some input!
PearlDreams, this lovely necklace you made looks very similar to what I have in mind layoutwise:
Pearl Dreams
Pearl Enthusiast
morella, you don't want to use beading wire? That is what I used.
Thank you! Beading wire seems to be the most reasonable way to go ... BUT: I just love the waterlike drape of a knotted strand, and I really want to learn how to do it properly. Do you think metal spacer beads would be enough to protect the pearls?
Marianne
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Knotting between the gemstone beads when combining with larger drilled hole pearls works great and you still get a lovely drape. Gemstone beads do not leave black marks on the pearls like metal beads do. When using power pro you also do not need to worry about a chance sharp edge on the gemstone bead because that stuff is crazy strong. Looking forward to seeing what you create! Oh and be sure to lay out your design with several pearls on each side of the clasp to accommodate your back knotting. 
